- Monks, Nuns - ( Holy Orders )
2: 44 And
all that believed were together, and had all things common;
2: 45 And
sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every
man had need.
not Catholic. Hermits, then monastics, were in existence long before
Orthodox/Catholic Church began to take shape. Most
lived on their own in the dessert; and all the greats of the early
were called to seclusion by God, so that he may speak to
Try to stay in a room for 30 days just praying, reading the bible,
and drinking with measure and fasting, and find out what a
experience this is.
10:17 And when
he was gone forth into the way, there came one running, and kneeled to
him, and asked him, Good Master, what shall I do that I may inherit
10:18 And Jesus
said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one,
10:19 Thou knowest
the commandments, Do not commit adultery, Do not murder, Do not steal,
Do not bear false witness, Defraud not, Honour thy father and
10:20 And he
answered and said unto him, Master, all these have I observed from my
10:21 Then Jesus
beholding him loved him, and said unto him, One thing thou lackest: go
thy way, sell whatsoever thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou
have treasure in heaven: and come, take up the cross, and follow
9:23 And he said
to them all, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and
up his cross daily, and follow me.
9:24 For whosoever
will save his life shall lose it: but whosoever will lose his life for
my sake, the same shall save it.
thy self and follow
this to the very meaning
of the quote, on your own, and you've got a Hermit.
this to the very meaning
of the quote, with a number of others, and you got what we know as a
are not necessarily made-up of monks or nuns but, before the Catholic
started to exploit monasticism there were many Christians living such a
life, just as God-obeying Christians.
Early Christian's (not
church) invented the 'Monk/Nun'. They
take vows of Celibacy,
Poverty and Obedience.
latter should be 'Obedience
to the law of God' not the perversions of men as is so often the case
their monasteries. But 'The Monk / Nun' in principle does not
Christ, as their way of live does not contradict the doctrine of
So, man or woman living in these places we know as monasteries, need
be Monks and Nuns, but they can be Christians living a life of
and, if not married or engaged, they commit no adultery or fornication
(sexual intercourse with engaged or married persons), of
the early years of Christianity, this was prevalent, before
Church with all their money started to build monastic orders and
the others: for many are called but few are chosen!
dismissed monasticism; mainly through the following of Martin Luther
ditched this practice as his experiences with monasticism were not at
pleasing amid the corruption and murders. So it is not
but the people/churches running the orders that are the
Because the Catholic church allowed them to develop into virtual
does not declare them unsound in sound hands.
Search monastic history and read about the perversions that ruled the
priest (so-called) demanding sex in return for forgiveness of
And yes, people were as stupid as to grant them it! Until
end of the first millennium, people had enough and destroyed
of the so-called holy orders. Though the orders returned after the 11th
century, they were no lesser corrupt than their predecessors, and soon
the people and governors turned upon them again, plundered them, taking
their lands, belongings and properties.
must be understood
that, unlike Benedict's statement that the most valiant of monks are
who live in monastic orders, the most valiant of monks, in fact, are
who follow the law of God and walk in the commandments, no matter what
kind of monk they are.
Abbot: a Catholic
contortion of a Christian invention.
is the overseer of
the governing rule of the monastery . He is elected by the group, and
the dominant figure whom will sit at a separate table, receive an
or live in a house away from the monastery; at all times subduing the
to the rule, as thus they have chosen to serve God. In the old days
was often in humiliation, suffering abuses designed by men ( a clear
of peters: "to subject your self to every evil of men" ) this quote, no
doubt, refers to evil that by chance may come upon you, not you
walking into evils concocted by men. And then Peter also thought them
Jesus taught him: "that all must be equal".
Subduction and Sado-masochism were really brought to live in
were punished, whipped, ordered to chastise them selves etc., for the
joys of others...and themselves, if they were, or became
people joined these
orders to indulge in their fetish and perversions as the base
the entry rules was and still is: "if one calls 3 times at the door,
him in". Many of these persons would happily call six times
of Nursia, by no means held an apartment
in the monastery he was invited to run, but lived on equal foot with
monks, (though he had a separate room and sat at a separate table);
did he had any other privilege than administrator of his rule (which in
fact is not a privilege). So, though Benedictines
go by the
name, their ancient brothers, having failed to kill Benedict with
today they have little more than nothing in common with this
thing should be clear
to all people: no man finds holiness by separating him self from woman
as it is not woman who defile man but man themselves. Man and
he made them, to live in love together.
not what goes in to a man that defiles a man, but it's that which comes
out of a man that defiles a man."
are not told
to become Monks and neither are we told to join Holy Orders, we are
to deny our selves for Christ. So, wherever in Christianity
going to make our home - as minister, disciple, monastic
must obey this order to deny our self to an acceptable extent for the
To deny ourselves luxuries and some things of the earth while we
even with our eyes, is not acceptable to God. But first and
we must understand that to deny ourselves to a acceptable extent is to
follow the 12 commandments of God, (in which 90% of the
process is contained) and repent and baptise: for upon this stands the
of Jesus Christ who said: "Transgression against one of the
is transgression against all of the commandments.